Hydrogen Wind Electrolysis
why won’t this free energy patent work? 4084375?
US Patent 4084375
I once had a dream that I created a free energy generator. I woke up an immediately drew the device from the dream, then I kept deveoping it and was so confident it would work that I tried to patent it. The patent got rejected because a similar one already exists. Now I am left puzzeled as to why it hasn’t been put into use because it was pantented almost 30 years ago!
It basically uses electrolysis to create HHO bubbles which lift buckets up to turn a turbine which creates the current to continue the elecrolysis. The deeper and taller it is – the more power it can make. simple.
I can only think that it would work, but may not produce enough Hydrogen/power to make it cost effective compared to other free energys like wind turbines so that could be why it hasn’t been tried.
The reason it won’t work is subtle. Yes, on first glance it does look like a good argument that, even though the power output is small, it can in principle be increased without bound just by increasing the height of the water column. So eventually (the thing might have to be a mile tall, but eventually) you have to break even, right? Not quite . . .
So you’re getting energy from the buoyant force on a bubble. Which means you’re exploiting the pressure gradient in the liquid (since this is how buoyancy works). As you increase the height of the liquid column, you also increase the pressure at the point where you’re creating the bubbles. This is essential to how the thing works; there’s no way around it.
Here’s the crucial hint: The energy required to create bubbles increases with pressure. This is well known in thermodynamics, but the effect is small enough in most practical situations that it’s a fact that you may have not run into. The energy you’re exploiting through the buoyant force is actually put into the system with your electrolysis system. This is in addition to the energy required to break the chemical bonds. So the system will never break even.
As the depth increases, you’ll have to put in just a little more electrolysis power than you expected to, and you won’t get all that energy back by extracting work from the rising bubbles.
Analyzing why perpetual motion machines won’t work is actually a really good way of improving your conceptual understanding of physics. I highly recommend it. Sometimes the crucial flaw is really easy to overlook! This was a good one, I have to say.
High Voltage Electrolysis